Монолог о подготовке войны с Ираном и разговор с Клейтоном Моррисом

Well, in between the Super Bowl halftime show and Epstein and the Winter Olympics, most Americans probably weren't aware that we are on the verge of a massive regional war in the Middle East, if not a third world war. We are. The largest movement of American military hardware is since 2003, the Iraq invasion, is now in or steaming toward the Persian Gulf off Iran, preparatory to what could be the aforementioned war. Now, most people, once again, probably didn't know this. Those who did know it weren't for it. Recent polls on this question, are you for a war with Iran? It's about one in five Americans support it. The rest are probably asking, war with Iran? Why do we have a war with Iran? They said no idea. The president did address it last night in a State of the Union and at a press conference, and he said in public what he basically says in private, Trump being one of those rare public figures who's pretty much the same behind closed doors as he is on stage, says pretty much the same stuff. He's a little funnier in private, but basically he's not a different guy. He's the same guy. And he's been saying the same thing about Iran for a long time. Really, two things. One, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. They cannot have a nuclear weapon. He says it again and again. He really means it. That's not a talking point. It's completely sincere. And two, I would prefer a negotiated settlement.

I'd prefer peace rather than war. And that's obviously true. So to bottom line, where we are right now at the end of February 2026 on this looming Iran war, seems likely. I have all those aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Planes ready, missiles ready. But it's not certain because the president hasn't decided to do it. And you may not get that impression either from watching the news. There is this sense that it's inevitable. And that's kind of a psyop actually designed to make you think there's nothing you can do about it. No, Trump has not decided to do this. Again, seems likely. All the momentum is in that direction. But the president's the sole decider on this question. He's the commander in chief. And he's showing no obvious signs of enthusiasm. And why would he? There are a lot of reasons not to do this. The first being the one just mentioned, which is most Americans don't want it. And though it's not a direct democracy, it's a form of democracy. And you probably shouldn't commit history changing acts without the support of your people. And Trump feels that way. This is someone who pays very close attention to, say, TV ratings. Why is that? Not just because he worked in TV, but because he thinks they're a pretty good measure of what people are interested in. He cares about what people think.

And he's willing to listen to almost anybody. So that's a good reason not to do it. The public's not behind you. Maybe you've got great reasons to do it that they don't know about yet. But we haven't heard those. And the president hasn't really explained them other than to say Iran is bad. Yes, that's been the official U.S. position since 1979. Iran can have nukes. That's always been the president's position. And we would like some kind of settlement. The reason he's not eager to start this war is because he, in general, isn't eager to start wars. Hasn't been, anyway. But because this would be a particularly tough war. This is the largest buildup since the Iraq War, but Iran is not Iraq. It's much, much, much bigger and much more technologically advanced. Population of Iran is about 92 million. In 2003, almost exactly 23 years ago when we rolled into Baghdad, the population of Iraq was 25 million. So Iran is more than three times bigger. The landmass of Iran is multiple, six times bigger. It's huge. It's a huge, pretty advanced country compared to Iraq. So that's a problem right there.

This is a serious thing to start a war with a real country. Are we in a position to do that? Well, there's some debate about that. The U.S. military performs in a remarkable way under certain circumstances. But is the U.S. military right now ready for a prolonged conflict with a big country? Hmm. No, it turns out. And these are facts taken from open source material that have been published. They're on the internet. You can look it up. None of this is classified. This is all out there. But current estimates suggest that the United States is so low on some munitions, partly because we've used them in the defense of Israel already in the last 12 months. But whatever the cause, the United States is so low on certain kinds of munitions that were we to have even a brief but intense engagement with Iran, our military would not be ready for like 10 years to fight a real war against, you know, a peer or near-peer adversary. So out the window would go any hope of defending Taiwan, whether or not it's a good idea, is kind of, you know, up to you to decide. But that would not even be on the table because we wouldn't be able to. We would be much weakened by this because we don't have the stockpiles and we don't have the necessary industrial capacity to replace them quickly. So we are not in a position to have a lengthy engagement.

And everyone at the Pentagon who's gaming this out understands that. And again, this has been reported publicly, though not necessarily in the New York Times or the Washington Post, at least not on the front page. But it's widely known. So it'd be a tough war. We're not in a great place to fight it right now. And the potential downsides are absolutely real. Lots of things could happen. There are tens of thousands of Americans in the region, of course, in uniform and out. They could be hurt or killed. There's Israel, our ally, which is probably a little more vulnerable than we pretend it is to conventional attacks from ballistic missiles. Do the math on how many missiles Iran is believed to have versus how many anti-ballistic missiles Israel has or we have to defend Israel. They could be in trouble. And then there's a question of what happens to Iran. Like, does it fall apart? Does it disintegrate as a country? To be clear, as if tonight, there is no Israeli plan for what comes the day after we depose the Ayatollah. Knock out the leadership of the country. What happens then? You're going to put in the former king's son or something? No one believes that's real.

Will the country hang together with Pahlavi on the throne? Come on. No one is thinking this through because the people pushing this clearly don't care what happens after. The point is to take out Iran as a coherent country, not to protect Israel, but in order to sweep Iran aside as a regional rival. Once Iran is gone, there's no question as to who controls the Middle East. It, of course, would be the only nuclear-armed power in the Middle East, Israel. Period. That's the reason. The problem is, if the country were to disintegrate, the downstream effects would be profound for everybody else. You would likely have refugee crises. Where would they go? Well, Europe. They haven't enough refugees. They might go right across the water to Qatar or UAE. Oh. That could be a huge, huge problem. So, why would they push for this? Well, you have to think that the people pushing for this are not stupid. They've thought through the consequences. Let's say the United States attacks Iran. Maybe Iran just says, you know, you're absolutely right. We're evil. We're rolling over. Everybody in charge is going to retire, commit ritual suicide. We're going to turn it over to some Western Democrat who brings in pro-choice politics and gay marriage. And, like, we're cool. We're going to join NATO at that point. That's great. But what if Iran decides better to die on your feet than on your knees and just unleashes its conventional arsenal against American assets in the region, against Israel, and, critically, against energy infrastructure in the Gulf? If the extraction facilities and refineries and petrochemical plants in the Gulf were disabled, how expensive would oil be per barrel? How much would gasoline cost? What would steel go for? What would happen to liquefied natural gas, which goes to both Europe and China? What would happen to Europe if you disrupted the flow of LNG from the Gulf to Europe? What would happen if you closed the Straits of Hormuz, the choke point at the end of the Persian Gulf? I mean, it wouldn't destroy the world forever, probably, but it would tank the economy in the meantime, for sure. And who would suffer most? Well, let's see. The Gulf states, Europe, and the United States. It's kind of weird that anybody, especially an ally, would push for a conflict that's almost guaranteed to hurt its so-called allies. Why would you do that? You can tell me you love me, but if you're encouraging me to commit suicide, you're probably lying. It's possible that we should judge people's intentions by the effects of what they do, not by their own description of their motive. Is it possible that there is some hostility toward the United States, the Gulf states, and Europe from the people pushing this war? Oh, there's a lot of hostility. And part of it makes sense. The Gulf states, the six Arab oil-producing states, called the GCC in the region, are, along with Iran, one of the main impediments to Israel's regional hegemony. They are very rich.

They produce something that the rest of the world needs. They're also very good at diplomacy, particularly Qatar. They settle a lot of disputes internationally. They've posited themselves as the Switzerland of the Middle East, and they've done a good job at it, actually. And so they are a rival to Israel. You hear on Fox News, they're Hamas supporters. No, no, no, that's not their sin. Their sin is existing as a powerful independent country in potential rivalry with the regional hegemon, Israel. So, shafting them would be a very good thing from the Israeli perspective. But what about the United States, Israel's benefactor, its closest ally? Hmm, why would they want that? Well, maybe if you're gaming this out a little bit, you've decided we need a new superpower. Public opinion in this country has swung against us so hard. This bipartisan consensus that we're its closest ally is disintegrating before our very eyes. And let's be honest with ourselves, this is not going to continue forever. We need another country to be aligned with. Now, how many big countries are there to choose from? It's got to be physically large, big population, nuclear armed. Not too many. In fact, the big ones would be China and India. But China, unfortunately, is a Han ethnostate. So, you can't really turn its population against itself in order to increase your own power. It's not going to work. It's resistant to this, to manipulation. And that leaves India. And it was probably no coincidence that the prime minister of India, Prime Minister Modi, spoke to Knesset today about the ancient ties between Israel and India. Bottom line, yes, Israel is moving on from the United States at some point, probably sooner rather than later, to India. And so, weakening the United States in a war with Iran is not all bad. In fact, it might be good. Because then there's no rivalry at all in your region.

It's you, the only country with nuclear weapons. And everybody else. So, you can kind of do whatever you want. You don't have to worry about hostile neighbors. You can expand the size of your territory, for example. You can move your borders in all directions. Who's going to stop you? No one. So, if you game this out for a minute, the things that, from an American perspective, seem horrifying, like real downsides. Holy smokes, we could tank the U.S. economy. We could wreck the energy sector, at least temporarily. Some of our key Arab allies could be disabled by this. Those all seem very bad from an American perspective. Are they so bad from an Israeli perspective? No, they're not, actually. They may be the point long term. So, where does this leave our president, President Trump? Well, it leaves him where he began, which is very resistant to start big new wars. He, of course, ran for president both times, all three times, on the promise that he wouldn't do that. And he very famously, in the 2016 campaign, attacked Jeb Bush because of his brother's invasion of Iraq. That was idiotic, he said. And, of course, he was right. And 23 years later, we know exactly how right he was. That war, which lasted 20 years, waged on behalf of our ally Israel, didn't help the United States. It helped to impoverish the United States and sink this country deeper into debt, to weaken the dollar and destroy a generation of young men, mostly from the flyover states, the most decent and patriotic among us, destroyed. So, from an American perspective, Iraq was a true disaster, and Trump was the first big political candidate to say that out loud.

He knows this. He always has. So, why would he even be considering a war with Iran? Well, one way to think about it is the United States may not have a choice about whether or not this war starts, because, of course, the government of Benjamin Netanyahu could always act unilaterally, preemptively against Iran, and just do it, just strike Iran. What would happen then? Well, most likely, the Iranians would strike Israel, and then potentially strike American assets in the Gulf, and then potentially strike energy facilities in the Gulf. And the United States would be, by definition, drawn in. So, it's possible that the U.S. government, while not anxious to go to war with Iran, is trying to find a way to contain the behavior of its closest ally, Israel. Rather than sit back and wait for Bibi to do something that we have to clean up, that we're implicated in, and then sucked into, It's possible that the U.S. government is attempting to steer this in a less destructive direction. It's possible. None of this, of course, is filtered down to people paying attention, because the few who are paying attention to this, because all the noise has been about Iran's nuclear weapons.

They're on the verge of building a nuclear weapon any day now. Now, if you're semi-awake, you may remember that it was only about eight months ago, back in June of last year, during the short but hot 12-day war against Iran, that the United States took out nuclear processing facilities deep underground, and then announced we have ended the Iranian nuclear threat. And then, without you noticing, well, you were on summer vacation, or going to your kid's graduation, or bringing him back to school, or watching the Super Bowl halftime show with your jaw slack. Well, you were not tuned in. All of a sudden, that threat, out of nowhere, reemerged. And there's Benjamin Netanyahu on television, or at the White House, for a seventh time in a single year, making the case that we're right on the verge of a nuclear holocaust. Any day now, the Iranian government will have a nuclear weapon. And by the way, as noted, the president does not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. That is one thing that he takes very, very seriously. And he said that to the Iranians. And unfortunately, it turns out, whatever sides you're on, the current Iranian government is very hard to deal with. They're disorganized. The head guy is 87 years old. There's almost no communication directly between the governments. The supreme leader in Iran has never had a single phone call with the president of the United States. It's unclear exactly who's in charge. There are all kinds of factions. I mean, it's a nightmare. So the only people who've really been out there speaking in public about Iran's nuclear program basically are Benjamin Netanyahu, prime minister of Israel, and his many accolades and paid shills in the United States. You may have seen this tape before, but in case you haven't, it's worth watching again, because it reminds us that Benjamin Netanyahu has been saying exactly the same thing about Iran. They're actually going to have a nuclear weapon any minute since at least 1996. 30 years. Here it is. Now they're well into the second stage. And by next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage.

From there, it's only a few months, possibly a few weeks, before they get enough enriched uranium for the first bomb. You talk about a network of terror. Are there any other nations that you would recommend that the United States launch preemptive attacks upon at this point? No, the issue is not... The issue is not... First of all, are there other nations that are developing nuclear weapons? Yes. Should we launch any other preemptive attacks? First, let me say what they are, and then let me make a suggestion on how to proceed. Thank you. The answer is categorically yes. The two nations that are vying, competing with each other, who will be the first to achieve nuclear weapons is Iraq and Iran. And Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard of the United States within 15 years. The most dangerous of these regimes is Iran that has wed a cruel despotism to a fanatic militancy. If this regime or its despotic neighbor Iraq were to acquire nuclear weapons, this could presage catastrophic consequences, not only for my country and not only for the Middle East, but for all of mankind. I believe that only the United States can lead this vital international effort to stop the nuclearization of terrorist states. But the deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close. You can see why the government of Israel has such contempt for the United States while they're totally happy to tank our economy, stretch our military to its limit, degrade us in public. Why? Because our leaders put up with this. Some foreigner shows up in our capital every year for 30 years telling the same lies, and everyone in there just nods along all 535. Oh, really? Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon. I ran into a senator the other day. It was like, Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon.

I mean, they believe it. How could you have respect for people who believe something that dumb? Well, you couldn't, and they don't. And by the way, it's not just the claim that Iran is seconds away from a nuclear weapon that they're recycling here. It's maybe the oldest lie in American foreign policy you heard in those clips too, which is, we need to do this because it's a despotic regime that is oppressing its own people. Now, this line is older than you may know. And the reason it's so distressing, it's so cynical, is because it plays upon Americans' best quality, which is decency. Americans hate despotism. They believe freedom is granted them and all people by God. And so a regime that oppresses its own people is inherently illegitimate. Americans are born believing that, and God willing, they always will believe that because it's true. So if you're trying to sell an illegitimate war waged for reasons that had nothing to do with human rights at all, you would use that line, wouldn't you?

Probably. Well, American policymakers have used that line, and we pulled some. You want to hear some? This is, I'm going to get my glasses, which I've dropped. Excuse me. We pulled this, and this actually made me laugh out loud. So this goes back, well, 61 years. Here's Lyndon Johnson, 1965, in a speech at Johns Hopkins, explaining that the war in Vietnam, which was just getting intense then, three years from Tet, from the height. He said this, tonight, Americans and Asians are dying for a world where each people may choose its own path to change. So really, we're doing this for the Vietnamese people. Okay, now. Then Bush, George W. Bush, son of George H. W. Bush, said this, right before the Iraq war started, and we're quoting, we have no ambition in Iraq except to remove a threat and restore control of that country to its own people. Right. We did that for human rights reasons. We just wanted democracy in Iraq. Did that happen? The Christian population was annihilated? Hundreds of thousands of people died? And political control was turned over to the Ayatollahs in Iran? Hmm, no. But he said it anyway, and so did Dick Cheney, by the way. My belief, he said, in the lead up to the Iraq war, is that we will be greeted as liberators. The vast majority of Iraqis would respond favorably to an effort to rid the country of Saddam's regime. Well, someone who happened to be in Baghdad in December of 2003, the day we caught Saddam at Decreet, I can attest to what you already know, which is, that's where the insurrection started. But Barack Obama, even, three years after getting elected president, having been thoroughly briefed and had a lie, in 2011, said this about the bombing of Libya and the murder of our sometime ally and CIA asset, Muammar Gaddafi, quote, this is a plea for help from the Libyan people themselves. They're desperate for it. Regime change in Libya, said Barack Obama, would serve America's, quote, broader goal of a Libya that belongs not to a dictator, but to its people. I mean, what can you do but laugh? It's so absurd. It's such an obvious lie. It's like Bibi Netanyahu saying, they're minutes away. As long as people believe this or are so polite they pretend to believe it, politicians will keep telling the same lies. You have to make them pick a new lie. Now, what's interesting is that the administration, I think to its credit, hasn't done a ton of this. There's been, you know, the, oh, we feel bad for the billion Iranians murdered in the streets of Tehran or some whatever. Who knows what the number is? You can't believe any number connected to any conflict in any country ever because everyone lies about them all the time. But some number of Iranians protesting the Iranian government apparently were killed by the government and we feel bad about that and we legitimately do feel bad about that. Is that a good reason to topple the existing power structure and just let the country devolve into whatever happens next? Probably not. And the administration hasn't really made that case or really any case other than they can't have nuclear weapons. So you can at least feel satisfied that they're not trying very hard to lie to you. They're basically just saying looks like we could have a war because everybody knows the only reason we're having this war is because Israel wants it. This is their last chance they believe. This presidency is the last presidency where they're going to have unequivocal bipartisan support. Period. You can't primary every Thomas Massey and there's a whole army of them coming at some point because everyone can see what's going on and you can shut down X and you can shut down the internet and you can be like Great Britain and arrest people who protest Israel but attitudes are not going to revert to what they were five years ago. Sorry.

And they know this. So this is their last chance. What's so amazing is that Israel which at least is acting in what it perceives to be its own national interest is joined by its shills in the United States of course but really its only other ally in this is the American news media whose job it is to tell you the truth and inform you as to what's happening to tell you hey wake up the world could be changing and it's going to affect you and your family. That's their job. And instead they've been lulling you to sleep with the same variety of transparent lies and propaganda. And so just for fun we decided we would pick a cross section and not just from liberal media or right wing media but from all media because it's not a left right question. Chuck Schumer is every bit as much in favor of an invasion of Iran a regime change war in Iran as I don't know pick a brain dead Republican senator which is almost all of them. They're all for it and so are all the Democrats. You don't see Alexandria Cazio-Cortez making a real case again. She's like a pro forma case because she knows that all of her constituents hate it but is she really working to stop us? Of course not because they're all for it because they're paid to be for it and so are the media. So here's a quick cross section. Now it goes without saying that the Wall Street Journal owned by the Murdoch family has been by far the most egregious and the most stealthy because starting new regime change wars on behalf of Israel is like the whole reason to have the Wall Street Journal now apparently but here's just a few headlines. The diminishing risk of an Iran attack quote two years ago there was a strong possibility the region would spiral out of control. Not anymore. Really? Oh really? What is the plan the day after we depose or kill the 87 year old supreme leader or President Pazeshkian? What's the plan? Do you have a plan? No plan. But don't worry it will not spiral out of control. The Wall Street Journal assures you of that. Here's another. A fractured Iran might not be so bad. Well yeah it could spiral out of control and break into different provinces and you know it could become Libya or Syria or Lebanon. That's not so bad because you know why quote its borders are artificial oh they're fake and a breakup would frustrate the interests of China Russia and others. Okay so our global rivals wouldn't like it therefore it's good and quote its borders are artificial as compared to whose borders? All borders are artificial God didn't draw them sorry Mike Huckabee they're drawn by people artificial what? No it's a country has been for a while and if you blow it up into constituent parts and inside a civil war they're going to be downstream effects of that again like refugee crises into Europe and the Gulf States probably the United States too since it is the iron law of American foreign policy that once you start bombing people you have to let all their angry kids into your country and that's how by the way we got the Boston Marathon bombing and many other acts of terror thanks neocons and then there's this John Bolton still exists writing for the Wall Street Journal the Gaza ceasefire has diverted Western attention from the real threat Tehran and its surrogates you'd really have to be John Bolton to think that Tehran and its surrogates or even in the top hundred issues Americans are worried about at the moment they're not this is knowable it's polled all the time by Gallup and others Tehran and its surrogates are admittedly an issue of concern to Israel and to its shills here but they're not actually a problem for a continent sized country separated from the world by two great oceans not a problem as long as you don't like start a war with Iran or something so the new year is here but that does not mean you've got to overhaul your whole life despite claims to the contrary you don't have to take drastic measures make a few changes here and there and you'll be a lot better off and you can start with the snacks in your pantry now products from standard American chip brands are let's be honest pretty repulsive filled with chemicals that make you feel heavy and bloated they don't even taste that good they're not good for you we recommend an upgrade with Masa chips Masa is the easiest way to eat clean without feeling like you're on a diet the chips contain three ingredients that's it organic corn sea salt 100% grass fed beef tallow and that is it no seed oils no mystery chemicals just food actual food and they're amazing and you feel great after you don't feel 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strikes trump should prove them right mr president you're so strong and dangerous you have a chance to prove that they fear you memo to self never accept flattery uncritically because it is deeply subversive attacks are straightforward flattery is reptilian flattery is the true danger oh president trump you're so strong they're afraid of you prove them right by killing them and then if trump doesn't strike iran now history will never forgive him if you don't have a war with iran history will never forgive you probably depends on who writes that history but hundreds of millions of americans will forgive you they'll be grateful to you for pulling us back from the brink of something we don't need and don't want and then last of course douglas murray the eminent historian everyone respects douglas murray he's got a british accent he's not being paid to say this don't worry trump has a chance to end khamenei's reign of terror in iran his reign of terror because if there's one thing douglas is concerned about it's human rights in iran he's been he's been there and now to the new york times and this is interesting if you're a right winger because the new york times is of course like the most liberal publication in the world it's npr on paper it's totally different from say fox news it's like they're they're polls apart they have nothing in common whatsoever except on a few questions like immigration and war and the basis of our economy which is finance and real estate the banks except on those issues there's some overlap okay there's vigorous consensus in other words except on the issues that actually matter that drive history that determine whether or not your children thrive in this country or not on those issues they're one and the same and so here's a section we'll put this one up on the screen because it's so amusing here's mr brett stevens three different pieces he's written on this question he's obviously a man with a great deal of credibility and authority on the regime change wars having advocated for all of them none of which has worked the case for striking iran can we let iran get away with mass murder israel had the courage to do what needed to be done the case for overthrowing maduro the syria opportunity we absolutely need to escalate in iran and then my personal favorite from 2023 20 years later quote 20 years on i don't regret supporting the iraq war okay should you be admitting that 20 years later i am not ashamed to wear women's underwear well actually you should be ashamed you should be embarrassed if you don't regret supporting the iraq war if that support occasioned no soul searching in you then you my friend have a spiritual problem all of us make mistakes all of us support dumb things as someone who supported the iraq war i can attest to that personally so the acid test is not do you make mistakes the acid test is do you admit that you did and do you apologize but if you refuse to do either one of those things and instead 20 years later are still bragging about the greatest disaster in modern american history as if it's a badge of honor hard to know if we have anything in common as people because that's contemptible and scary it's never occurred to you the iraq war was a mistake really on what basis was it a success so if that's really your view maybe we shouldn't trust you when you tell us that we have a moral obligation to attack iran just throwing that out there so that's where the print media are but let's be honest it's not really the print media who are driving this because this is a republican administration and as everyone knows republicans have one main news source and that's fox news i have some familiarity with the product and i can say that even as fox news's reach and power and influence have diminished greatly mostly due to technological changes people go on the internet they don't pay for cable but as it has diminished it has not broken the stranglehold that fox has over republicans in washington they watch fox they want to go on fox and so fox has really driven this war and if it occurs you can thank fox more than any other media organization more than any other lobbyist more honestly than any government more than the government of israel fox news has pushed for this war its owners personally have pushed for it personally and of course its employees on the channel have pushed for it with such aggression and unanimity that as of tonight there is not a single on-air fox personality who is going to question going to war with iran there are some who may have reservations there was one on a weekend show who very bravely spoke up and said is this a good idea that was the last time this topic was discussed on that weekend show because the order has gone down to fox employees we are in favor of this war and that is very obvious if you watch it now one of the main cheerleaders for an invasion of iraq and every other invasion and every other instance of shedding of human blood just a killing in general would of course be senator lindsey graham of south carolina now if you don't watch fox you may have no idea what he actually says when he goes on fox which is all the time so we want to play you a short montage of lindsey graham and watch as you watch this his eyes and you can see that he is maybe for the first time that day feeling elevated and light and happy but also tantalized you can almost watch his mouth filled with saliva some people feel this way in strip bars others in bakeries lindsey graham is excited by killing and if you think that's cruel watch this change is coming to iran it'll be the biggest change in the history of the mid east to get rid of this nazi regime hit iran they have oil fields out in the open they have the revolutionary guard headquarters you can see from space blow it off the map there's an opportunity to hit the iran nuclear program in a fashion i haven't seen in decades and i think it would be in the world's interest for us to decimate the iranian nuclear threat while we can be all in president trump in helping israel eliminate the nuclear threat if we need to provide bombs to israel provide bombs if we need to fly planes with israel do joint operations so pray for our troops in harm harm's way their risk associated with any operation they join the military to keep their country safe and to make the world a better place and taking on the ayatollah does both if i were you mr president i would kill the leadership that are killing the people into the ayatollahs you need to understand if you keep killing your people who are demanding a better life donald j trump is going to kill you now you can look at that and say you know this guy's risking his soul talking like this this guy is wrong on the evidence this guy's clearly a buffoon with some kind of psychosexual problems that we're not qualified to diagnose but that are totally evident but you should also keep in mind as you watch lindsey graham he's taken very seriously by his colleagues in the senate not just the republicans but also the democrats and he's taken very seriously by republicans in washington more broadly of course he is he's taken very seriously this has an effect and that effect could get us into you know certainly the worst war uh in 23 years so the idea is to flood the zone the information zone to make sure that no republican in washington hears anything but that and the proponents of this war are very intent on that they've made no effort to convince you it's a good idea they are staying up night and day convincing the decision makers it's a good idea and they're trying by the way to shout down and threaten and defame and slander and exclude anybody who has a contrary view who might pipe up and say wait a second we sure this is a good idea what would happen if the energy trade gets shut down in the persian gulf what would happen if iran lobbed successfully lobbed some sort of armament into u.s aircraft carrier and americans died what would happen what would happen if israel felt threatened enough to use nuclear weapons against iran which is a possibility despite what they tell you that's a possibility what would happen once these things get going you don't know where they wind up and anyone who says he does know is lying obviously so anyone who raises those questions must be called a nazi and an anti-semite and you want to kill jews no don't want to kill anybody the game is to make sure that the only noise in the room comes from graham and people like graham right until of course someone pushes play and it's too late to stop it and at that point we can all pretend we were never for this or they just did it wrong or whatever we've seen this movie so many times you know exactly what's going to happen if it goes south and the truth is it works because people are intimidated donald trump to his great credit listens to everybody everybody and by the way in his speeches when he starts rolling and ad-libbing and all that the weave as he calls it he'll off and say i talked to the sky and like he actually kind of listens to people but people around donald trump have been intimidated understandably by the level of pure aggression aimed at anybody who raises totally reasonable points about the downsides of a war with iran so they haven't said anything so keep in mind and by the way this is a message to anyone who knows donald trump has a good relationship with him likes him loves the united states now's the time to maybe call and say whoa wait a second have some concerns here now is the time right now because the decision has not yet been made but it's not just aggression it's also lying so i'll play one last clip before we go to clayton morris who's spent many years in the u.s media uh and has a i think more tactile sense of what's going on here in information world but one last clip and this is from i think two days ago and this is from a man at fox a weekend show host called mark levin and and really nobody has elevated his own visibility to a greater extent or worked harder to get the united states into war with iran than mark levin has and he's done it not through brilliant argument incisive analysis basically through screaming but as we get closer and closer and closer to the time where this work could actually start levin has decided to just make stuff up and the clip you're about to hear is from his podcast i believe and you can check it two days ago and it is grounds for dismissal from fox news immediate grounds for dismissal and it's also at the very least grounds for like questions to him like what are you doing what are you doing saying something like this this is mark levin telling his listeners such as they are that iran has nuclear tipped icbms aimed at the united states watch this they'd slaughter a million of their own people if it meant retaining power that's not a government of a country those are terrorists that control a country it is a police state that's slaughtering its own people to stay in power so it can slaughter us it believes as the seventh century primitive barbarians believed that they must destroy civilization they believe today that they must destroy the west most prominently the united states of america those nuclear icbms aren't aimed for tel aviv or jerusalem they're aimed for new york and los angeles and chicago everywhere in between and around the united states of america the enemies of civilization if you wake up in a world where mark levin is publicly identified with quote civilization you are an upside down world civilization begins with the acknowledgement that human life is sacred that god created each person as an individual that identity politics is therefore wrong and that telling the truth matters because truth is absolute you may get it wrong but the idea that nothing is true is a form of nihilism and that attitude is the enemy of civilization and yet that's exactly what you just saw iran does not have nuclear tipped icbms and they're not aimed at the united states that is a lie it is a provable lie now why is he saying that not because he hopes to win an argument but because he hopes to whip his listeners into such a frenzy of fear and rage that they will support something that will hurt them this will hurt the united states almost without question if it happens this is not good for you it's not good for our actual allies the energy producing countries the middle east which are our actual allies israel is in no sense our ally in this and yet mark levin will not and none of these people will address that debate instead they're just lying to scare people into supporting something that will hurt them mark levin actually tweeted this and if you're old enough to remember the iraq war this is going to make you laugh iran producing ballistic missiles with chemical and biological warheads we mustn't delay any longer they have wmd where did information come from well it came from the free press no i beg your pardon it did not come from the free press though they probably repeated it it came from another aligned publication in washington is there any evidence that no of course there's no evidence of that and i'd be willing to bet my house that that lie originated in the same place the original wmd lie originated in 20 in 2002 before the iraq war in israel of course tell americans tell the congress tell the white house that the country we want you to spend your money and your lives to overthrow so we can have a greater degree of control or hegemony in a region that that country is a threat to you because they have weapons of mass destruction that was a lie then it's a lie now but they're saying it and so if you followed mark levin's twitter feed which i didn't until today but it's an amazing thing actually you'll see that he's given up all argument any attempt to win anyone over and instead repeating kill khamenei take out khamenei take out khamenei every single day now what is this what's really a kind of witchcraft actually it's the idea that if you repeat something enough that you can will it into existence the words alone will make it real and by the way that works unfortunately that works if you repeat a lie enough it assumes substance god isn't fooled but people are and so when you see somebody doing that saying something is totally untrue that contradicts the observations of your eyes and ears like i know that's not true and you see that person brush off the fact that it's not true and continue to repeat it you know that that person is trying to mesmerize you and put you under whatever kind of spell this is and that person is scary and that right now ladies and gentlemen is most of the american media and most of the u.s congress so keep praying in the meantime clayton morris who once had a seat on the fabled fox news morning show joins us now uh for an update on what he thinks going on with the media clayton morris thank you so much for doing this if it was a dirty seat it was it so are you i mean tell me if you think it's fair to say that moat not all but most traditional left right media are aligned they have disagreements of course on the trans issue but on this issue whether or not we go to war in iran it seems like there's complete agreement and there always has been there's all there to me there's no daylight at all between both of these parties we call it a uniparty that term gets thrown around quite a bit this idea of the uniparty but they are in lock step on this issue as far as i see it very few voices are speaking out about it if they do they get pushed out i mean look at marjorie taylor green matt gates you know questioning why we're in syria how dare you how dare you ask why why are we in syria uh congressman massey very few voices uh congress uh senator paul but there's very few there's very little daylight uh in these parties on this issue at all they desperately want war i was sitting here thinking because you have the ideological push right from mark levin he doesn't really care about the money no it's the you know it's the greater israel project that's what his big push is but lindsey graham and these others is it really about israel or is it really about the money and i think for most of these people it's probably about the money it's the massive military industrial complex you know i got warned when i was on fox warned me about much but that was one of the things tread carefully when i was criticizing the massive build up the massive military industrial complex um the amount of money that we're spending on this um to go to war in iran or or libya or iraq or afghanistan or whatever other boogeyman of the week that you have whether it's russia through ukraine weapons that wind up in mexico shut up don't ask those questions so we're all just supposed to sit back and then when you question it why are we giving so much money to israel why do we give all of our money to these different places shut up because these weapons are made in our backyard and so if you as you know it better than anybody but the military industrial complex sits in the neighborhoods of most members of congress yep because whether you drive to colorado springs or you drive to wichita kansas inevitably there's going to be some arm of northrop grumman or boeing or any name it name it honeywell it doesn't really matter who are all receiving trillions of dollars now as part of this massive boondoggle so heaven forbid that they would ever question the money that's flowing to the into the military industrial complex so all of them are bought and paid for and they're all part of this big cabal and i think you bring up a great point about they're all in lockstep because they want us to be fighting here like in this narrow structure right have some culture war like you know whether it's funny stories on fox news about hoas telling people to remove like christian symbol whatever it is right you just you fight in these like little in this little bubble you know but the real stories out here and they want us fighting in here so it looks like that they're really at odds with each other that aoc is really against mike johnson you know they're and and instead they're all in agreement they're all in agreement and they're all in lockstep when i i read very little on this because it's also misleading but when i do read big media outlets on this question and epstein for that matter but iran uh this week i really get the feeling that the intel agencies have some hand i get the strong feeling the overwhelming sense that some government intel agency had a hand in shaping this coverage that's remarkable that is a remarkable assessment and uh you think i'm being paranoid track no i think you'd definitely be on the right track and of course up until a few years ago you would have been labeled a conspiracy theorist right this idea that wait a second the intel community has a hand in shaping our narratives our coverage we only learned about it through the church committee by the way one of the great great americans um but go back to the jfk assassination right and project mockingbird before it ever became operation mockingbird and the infiltration of reporters at the washington post and the wiretapping of reporters to find out where information was coming that was sort of like the clandestine cia operations then then it morphs in the you know into the 1970s or late 1960s and 70s into operation mockingbird where they were installing members of the intelligence community in newsrooms particularly the you know cbs news the new york times and others and then once that was exposed it morphed into well now they're just on the payroll of these uh of of these uh of these networks you have you know mike pompeo they're not even hiding in the shadows anymore like meeting you at the water cooler like hey maybe uh you ought to not cover that story tonight or maybe you ought to look at this angle of that story tonight wink wink nudge nudge now you just have like people like mike pompeo on the payroll of of major networks um or reporters who are embedded inside the pentagon who are just adjacent to people like jennifer griffin who the other night literally on fox news said it's not a matter of if we go to war with iran it's a matter of when that's literally how she ended her toss back to did she really say that yeah it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when that's not true by the way i mean just in point of fact that's not true i i do think we're likely to go to war with iran i grieve that but in point of fact trump makes the decision and he hasn't made it so it's just a fact so if you're reporting that we're going to war you're lying and it does feel like they're trying to create this sense of inevitability i think her point was the military build-up is like you can't put that genie back in the bottle at this point that there's so much of a military build-up we've moved so many expensive pieces of equipment to this region on not unlike the gulf war in fact i've talked to sources in tel aviv who told me they haven't seen this type of build-up since the gulf war so i think her point is oh well you know what mr president maybe you just sort of sit back and let let other people deal with this we're going to build it up to such a degree where you just can't put this genie back in the bottle and i wonder how much agency he has at this point to be able to tell we're not going we're not doing it yeah we're not going to listen to what the israeli government and to launch this war which would be absolutely brutal and devastating hate to brag but we're pretty confident this show is the most vehemently pro-dog podcast you're ever going to see we can take or leave some people but dogs are non-negotiable they are the best they really are our best friends and so for that reason we're thrilled to have a new partner called dutch pet it's the fastest 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bucks off your veterinary care per year your dogs your cats and your wallet will thank you what's interesting is that excuse me that kind of military buildup is kind of hard to hide and it wasn't hidden it was taking place in in public and anyone who was interested could read about it but i don't think most americans at any day it was happening they sort of wake up and you have you know venezuela taking out maduro on january 3rd and then that moves into the super bowl and winter olympics and like people are just not really aware that this buildup is taking place and you wake up one morning and holy smokes the gerald ford is there so we're on its way isn't the media supposed to be telling us this is building well you can if you talked you know members of the military and i do i'm sure you do as well and they were telling us you know in the weeks leading up to this that wow the uh the the abraham lincoln is now on its i think third deployment they've been extended so they were supposed to come home this is like the longest they've ever been out 10 months which is like unheard of so they're now been extended for like a third time and they're supposed to come home and see their spouses and sorry yeah this has been extended because of what's about to happen so like all of this information is like readily available but of course there's no journalism actually happening anymore and if there is it's being parroted from whatever the intelligence state wants to be pushed out into the mainstream media people like sean hannity who sit there literally and wear a cia lapel pin i mean look at the look at just google sean hannity cia lapel pin who on the news is wearing a cia lapel pin i mean so uh you know this i just i i feel like sometimes tucker i wake up and i'm living in this like weird bizarro world because people are going about their business they're going about their day and then you and i live in this world where we're seeing all of these things happening and it doesn't touch the american people necessarily right they're going to go about their day the gas prices may go up depends on what happens in the streets of hormuz etc unless you're one of the families of the 50 000 americans who are currently in the region and whom joe biden said without a doubt they're you know they will be it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when they are attacked so he's expecting fully for them to be cannon fodder so then these military families will have the loss of life but of course that'll be insulated and bubble wrapped from most of the american people anyway and they won't affect people's day-to-day lives so we we pick these fights where we're doing these regime change wars over there and there's very little effect on the united states populace and the mainstream media tries to bury and cover it or spin a narrative it's it's incredibly frustrating and to see the mockingbird media like fox news and others just pushing for this it's it is infuriating but it's not simply that they lie it's that they work to exclude and discredit people who tell the truth the people who tell the truth are punished i mean this is like a principle in the gospels the one guy who got tortured to death was the guy who was telling the truth right so we shouldn't be surprised by it but i am every single time i got a text today from and i won't say this person's name it's an editor at barry weiss's gatekeeper publication who writes me this i'm the features editor of the free press we have a feature coming out about how the podcast business has leaned into conspiracy theories we'd love to include your voice let me know i said pretty funny i don't think that line of attack works anymore does it um and she didn't she didn't get back to me but i love that the only people who are telling the truth are attacked by the liars and that by the way your audience your natalie's audience is way bigger than the free press way bigger than cbs news i mean i do think that the people i'm accusing of lying have less of a grip on the american public than ever before so maybe it doesn't matter but it is infuriating right we even i think we even sell a t-shirt on our store that says conspiracy knower you know exactly and our pronouns are our pronouns are i told you so so i i'm you know like i'm fine you know i wear it as a badge of honor it's fine whether it's covid or what was going on in ukraine the child trafficking operations whatever it is that we've been covering on our show i've yet to have anyone come on our show and say you need to correct that mistake oh okay so you know conspiracy theories are just six months six months spoiler alerts right for what's to come so i i love leaning into conspiracy theories because no one else is doing the job i mean just look at the epstein story where is the mainstream media they're not covering it at all and not even not covering it they're refusing to have voices on their air who could actually provide real value real source material i'm speaking to a source today actually and who just who's recently been to epstein island and on epstein island there's still papers jeffrey epstein's papers scattered all over his books materials everywhere just laying there not not gathered up by the fbi not gathered up and being investigated but where is this information in the mainstream media where are any deeper questions about epstein's murder and all of the inconsistencies that have that appeared that day at the prison where are these they're not in the mainstream media at all and even like fox news coverage of pam bondy's hearing was mysteriously absent i don't know if you noticed that but no they fox news loves to go wall to wall with you know whoever whatever member of the cabinet is going to be there they love to go wall to wall coverage let's check in now with cash patel you know uh he's uh testifying before congress today about what the fbi is doing great spend an hour two hours senators members of uh you know have representatives asking questions house judiciary committee and otherwise pam bondy coverage shame on if you tuned into fox news to see like deep coverage of pam bondy being grilled over the epstein files sorry you weren't going to see it msnbc carried it if i'm not mistaken cnn carried it but fox news like why why do they why do they not want to show pam bondy being questioned about the epstein files normally they'd be covering that wall to wall so there is um a dereliction of duty happening in the mainstream media and i know from sources who have sent material to like news nation the new york times and other major publications and they've ignored it they've ignored it and won't publish it so why um anyway there's a dereliction of duty in the mainstream so i think it's a it's a fair question why in fact it's the important question obviously fox's audience is interested in epstein you know that the guy who partied with bill gates and really was friends with hillary clinton like why wouldn't they be interested of course they're interested but they're not getting the coverage from their network of choice but that's also true of new york times readers so it's a left right once again um collusion on this on this cover-up and it is a cover-up what what explains that i've been wrestling with this a lot and and i'm you know is it because in certain source sources who've told me that it is because how this hits just about everyone the major power players i mean marjorie taylor green admitted that president trump called her and asked her to not vote for the uh um the uh the disp what am i saying the dispatch um discharge petition i always get the discharge position excuse me and of course the epstein transparency act in her her words quoting her she said president told me that too many of my friends would be hurt and i think that's at the heart of it and i think the money there's a reason also i think that we haven't seen any of the financial information yet so you know when you and i spoke a few years ago on the show we talked about like operation gladio and nato and there's a strategy that they have which is you know the strategy of tension that colonel towner watkins she's very eloquent on this point and it's a strategy to keep us in this chaos right and that's also like a drip feed of information so we get sort of disparate pieces of emails but no financial information no transactions that connect point a to point b we get this person said this peter atia said i can't tell everyone about you you know you're my friend but man you're kind of dirty we get russian russian models with bill gates emails we get we get random pieces of pizzagate and all of these other things but do we get financial connections financial transactions which the doj is sitting on by the way like why don't we see any of that information and you know to your point with the new york times or these different publications covering this up i i you know i don't know but they were they were actively involved in this when you have landon thomas for instance right whose name shows up as part of the epstein investigation he was writing about the epstein from the new york times financial reporter writing about epstein back during his first arrest um and then you have nelly bowls who is of course the partner of wife of barry weiss who gets assigned by the new york times as a tech reporter to go and do a profile piece on jeffrey epstein and it's in the files where she claims oh my newsroom basically you know they told me it was or it later came out in her piece why she justified it that she could go and be with epstein that i'd be safe like so wait the new york times put you up to going to a known pedophile sex traffickers house like what kind of newsrooms like yeah you should you you girl you just run along to a known sex trafficking and pedophiles house and write a profile piece as a tech reporter like look i covered technology for years love it and i know all those people in the tech world if you call it like there's no way somebody from like the verge or the tech reporter for the wall street journal would be assigned to go do like a criminal profile piece like on financial crimes and sex trafficking or what it just wouldn't make any sense it's like bob woodward being chosen to cover watergate you know like as an as an as a cia asset or intel a uh you know adjacent asset it just doesn't make any sense um and then when you learn that she's cozy with epstein and then barry weiss it's just so bizarre as i know nelly bulls america's ranchers helped build this country for over 250 years ranchers fed america through droughts wars pandemics every other kind of chaos our friends at good ranchers built their company on that honorable legacy good ranchers is a meat company it's 100 committed to america they raise every cut on local american soil the entire packaging and fulfillment process takes place in this country same with customer support no dark 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had the chance to profile one of the darkest most interesting characters of our moment why didn't i grab it why didn't i grab it so she writes this whole piece about regularly using him as a source because he was business adjacent so i just thought it'd be good to write you know we're going to write a profile piece on this so the media it's remarkable how incurious they are or intentionally i don't believe they're dumb they're they're not allowing for instance congressman massey to appear on television i know for a fact that he hasn't uh thought fox news has not had him on and i think about a year um if i'm not mistaken the guy responsible along with roqana for the epstein transparency act but fox news won't allow congressman massey to appear on their airwaves like is there some sort of gatekeeping going on and by suzy wiles inside the white house to keep these people from getting this message out on their favorite network i don't know i mean sorry i'm going to keep keep in mind that fox hates trump the owners hate trump the murdochs hate trump um to the point where they wouldn't have him on um so it's it's hard to believe it's because they support trump and can i just say something because i know i'm going to be attacked if i don't say this i i have no connection whatsoever to nelly bowls you know not an intimate at all i am distantly related to her so i just want to say that um but i'm not part of any conspiracy at all okay um but i could just not to be defensive i could just i could see whoa you didn't mention that anyway uh but no i agree i didn't know that i didn't know that yeah i mean i did yeah it's not it's not relevant to my life in any way but i just i just feel like i should say that uh in just to be honest about it um so but fox it's they're pushing so hard for the war if the war goes off i think it's fair to say i voted for trump and campaigned for trump i just saw trump i really like trump i think this you know it's gonna be hard for the for the administration to continue in its present form if this war doesn't go well so it's a huge risk for trump so if you really like trump you would not be counseling him to do this you would not be um only if you hated trump would you tell him to get involved in a regime change war in iran and second if you like they're not protecting trump by hiding epstein so i feel like fox is acting on is it the money to interest is it the globalist cultists who run everything i mean yes i think that's right yes it's whatever the superstructure above governments is and that's very obvious in the epstein emails and texts is that you know he's part of some informal structure that's i don't know shorting the global financial crisis and knows that kadhafi is going to be killed before hillary clinton does or whatever like this guy is so plugged in he's way more plugged in than any u.s senator he's more plugged in than any secretary of state probably more plugged in the cia director so like what is this what are we looking at here i think you're right and you know this is where people say oh you're conspiracy theorists unredacted and tucker whatever but it really is true when you understand that there's this global cultist network pedophiles satanists who are who you know responsible for the covid cabal and all of it this supra government whatever you want to call it at the heart of everything then you understand that like trump is just a small piece of this and you understand also that epstein is just a small piece of this maybe it's a window into it in my opinion and they're very scared it's like circling the wagons to kind of protect this globalist network however it operates at many many different levels um you know you get glimpses into it like with the bilderberg group and you know when when you see all these people at davos telling telling us how how they're going to control our lives in the next few years with ai you know chips inserted into our brains um and moving past information warfare now they're just going to have total control of us and in all of it so i i think that rupert murdoch and these guys these oligarchs these tech oligarchs who are at the top they're they're they're way more powerful than president trump and they're really running the show i mean when you see that we're going to have you know massive bio uh you know biometric scanning and 6g networks rolled out and uh in digital ids and cbdcs and all of this digital tracking it's all about control um kevin ship former cia whistleblower told me you know 17 years at the cia and he said he said clayton you have to understand that when i when i got to the cia the the you know the number one goal at the cia is if they can if they know your thoughts then they've won and that's the number one goal of the intelligence state is for them to know your thoughts and to be able to have that control and we're not there yet but we're we're damn close and i think those are the those are the dark forces that are really running all of it and i think trump is a small piece of this but i think those power players that run all of these media networks and and all of it you know the jeff bezos is of the world and all of this uh have far more control than president trump does do you sense that people are afraid as i was thinking about this story today both about the looming war and about epstein and how few people have stood up to say wait a second you know what is this um and i i grew up in a country where people would routinely stand up and say hey what is this and i don't see a lot of that at all and i'm wondering why and mass hypnosis is part of it of course people seem to be under a kind of spell shock is another part of it but fear does seem to play a role people seem afraid i think you're right maybe i don't i don't see a lot of this fear and and i you know maybe i should be standing out there with like a sandwich board trying to say it i mean i see the people in our chat room who watch our live show who are saying i'm terrified of what's about to happen where are the people who are denouncing this trying to get this trying to stop it but of course they're all being drowned out and the me and the media is a is complicit in this they're a huge piece of this salesmanship of it and when you just watch like local news like i'm in colorado you just like flip on the local news for a few minutes to get maybe some some weather updates they'll do a little quick update president trump says this will not allow iran to have a nuclear weapon play a quick soundbite of i don't know mark levin or senator lindsey graham or somebody saying that this is a threat and then you know that person goes off to work and thinks yeah i guess iran is a threat i hope i hope that doesn't happen so you know we we got to stop them we got to do this and so i don't see a lot of the fear from just like average people going to the grocery store and again i think it comes back to we we are always so far removed from war in the united states and that that's how they've thrived of this this is how the military industrial complex has thrived is by having these wars over there and we don't have to see it and it's very sanitized it's like getting a chicken breast from the grocery store you know you don't have to see the the uh the butcher process no you don't you just get this nice little thing and cellophane and sold to you on the nightly news and then you go back to your taking your daughters to dance class i wonder if people who do see it who are paid to notice this stuff you for example and and other podcasters that that's that's really where truth is being told right now i'm grateful to be in this business unexpectedly because i feel like there's so many great people in it but it really is the only place at this point it'll change but as of right now it's digital media social media and podcasts i mean that's where people are telling the truth and there are lots of crazies too and lots of liars but but that's really where most of the truth is being told can they continue to do this i mean it feels like there has to be some kind of dramatic free speech crackdown because what the government is doing at every level is too far from what the public wants the the distance is it's never perfect like the government's always doing stuff people don't want but if every big thing the government is doing is you know an 80 20 against issue with the public that's not sustainable you have to do something or you're going to have a kind of revolution right so don't you have to shut down free speech i mean that's exactly why we got rid of tiktok right i mean that's of course you're going to see this consolidation of these independent voices and others will pop up and whether or not they're as successful or not i mean who who knows at the end of the day um but of course you're going to have this consolidation and sale and and censorship and that's i mean we've seen it on youtube um and you've seen it on these other platforms and so you saw it during covet and you saw you know elon musk still hasn't answered the question and i think it's still there which is that backdoor access for twitter and maybe maybe he will answer it he he didn't answer i followed up with him he still hasn't answered the question but there was a backdoor access from the u.s government to x formerly twitter and i asked him about it specifically and he didn't know anything about it when i asked him and he said i'm gonna have to follow up on that and i followed i never got an answer on that so like to steal your phrase you know like what is that really x still has a backdoor access from the federal government to censor users on x i mean you can just see people's voices who criticize a certain topic who then are suddenly throttled or you know suddenly shadow banned and whose messages suddenly don't appear in your timeline and so again not to be conspiratorial but these things are going to have to be censored at a greater level and they will have more control of it you're already seeing it too with answers you get on ai and so many people are ditching google just general google searches it's absurd you know so that they get new new versions of google searches thinking that they're getting more honest answers when really it's what garbage in garbage out whatever the programming is for ai it's the answers they're going to get on that side so you know it's very very difficult to get honest answers anymore um and all of these sources especially on the media side the digital media side and where is ai pulling their source material from like mainstream media like i did a search the other day and it pulled up like six different sources and reuters okay vox media you know it was like six or seven sources all like mainstream media sources so i'm not getting any cleaner answers there no no they're just just repeating the lies back to you in a less transparent way so what are you going 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ambassador after that interview i mean i think the guy something broke inside him have you ever been attacked after an interview i that's usually a sign that that something snapped in the person i mean you got attacked i think after your interview with ted cruz and then after your interview with mike huckabee so that should tell you something about you know um your incredible interviewing skills where you're just not really basic question yeah well i mean you can only ask the question 30 times and not get an answer at some point like you know this could be a five-hour interview for just i'm gonna ask the same question over and over and over again and you're gonna you're not gonna answer the question like where does that right come from um and then like under bewilderment finally like an admission of truth at one point when he says yes they should just take it all tucker and i just about fell out of my chair natalie and i watched it together we both looked at each other our i couldn't believe what i was hearing and of course why widely condemned and across all of the middle east after that that comment that sure israel has a right to all of this land they should just take up but israel won't because they're good they're good so they're not going to so we should just rest we should all sit back because they have no history of doing that at all and just allow them to take the small sliver of land so but you can only ask that question so many times before you know and you're not going to get an answer and not going to get a straight answer about it um but i was particularly should this guy be i mean i disagree with him on the theology it's it's not christianity from what i can tell at all he's a violence worshiper that right there is disqualifying as far as i'm concerned far be it for me to give theology lessons but that does not look like christianity to me but leaving that aside the guy is the u.s ambassador he works with the state department he represents the president in a foreign country and he's not representing the u.s government he's representing the country he's living in a foreign country he he's not helping to get sex criminals in israel extradited to the united states he's meeting with a traitor jonathan pollard he's basically using his post to work out his weird cultish views how is that guy a u.s diplomat i i just i've never seen anything like that and i haven't either i lived in portugal for five years and while i was there trump's ambassador his his his original ambassador um before you know the biden era ambassadors i mean got in a quite a bit of problems with the portuguese government for basically telling them to you know back off on china there were a couple of other issues but it was coming from a place of american interest right right exactly and it was quite a big deal like in the portuguese press like how dare this ambassador how dare he tell us like what the americans want you know this is portugal right so i i almost would like a little bit of that right like hey i'm going to hold a press conference here in tel aviv and while we believe in our our partnership with israel we also as americans don't stand for pedophiles known pedophiles like why is israel's safe haven for pedophiles and it is i mean you could call up barry weiss and have her pull up the cbs archives where the cbs did a deep dive on israel's deep uh pedophile connections and where american pedophiles can flee and find safe haven with this right of return doesn't matter if you're pedophile doesn't matter if you killed children or not who cares so as an american ambassador to stand up there and hold a press conference and say as americans even though we've got a great relationship with israel we will not stand for this country harboring convicted pedophiles or pedophiles under indictment who are caught in a sting operation back in the united states like we want these people extradited back to the united states to stand trial and to face a jury of their peers but we don't hear any of that we got hassled when we were there my producers got really hassled our cameraman got really hassled um by thugs in the israeli security services i mean it unequivocally hassled outrageous and huckabee didn't ask what happened he just immediately took the side of the foreign government against my producers so i don't we as american taxpayers and american citizens have an expectation that there's someone in our government who will take our side against a foreign government or at least consider our position against their position i mean shouldn't we expect that you would think we would expect that just reminded it's like you see the movies hollywood movies where you know an american is in another country and he finds safe haven by going to a u.s embassy right huckabee would turn you over immediately to shin bett i mean you you would have no safe haven in the u.s embassy at all i mean i would feel safe in a lot of other u.s embassies around the world like oh i'm kind of here i'm here on sovereign territory this this is america a little slice of america like up on the walls a picture of president trump there's the secretary of state's picture there's an american flag i'm speaking english like i've been to a bunch of embassies you know in other parts of the world and i feel like well this is yeah this is america a little bit a little slice of it you know i wouldn't feel that way there no given his loyalty i mean even just back in the fox days you know i mean and you know huckabee's always been gracious to me and of course very nice in fact but there was many times where he was like i'm going to israel again this week i'm going to israel again this week and this was back when before he was he had a show but before he was running for president and complaining about trump he said god why the fox puts trump on all the air you know i can't get i can't get a word in edgewise they won't give me any air time he sucks up his words he's the trump sucks up all the air in the room um i can't get on the tv you know and all this stuff but so he would he's like i'm going to israel again and come back clayton i brought you a gift you know and here's another here's a yarmulke like oh thanks and i'll add it to the yarmulke collection you you know you in my office now and here's the here's the jar this is right you know this is right from tel aviv here's another so i mean he was there was a deep love deep love there for many many years yeah i knew i mean i knew him well and i was aware of that and i i don't care you go ahead and love israel it doesn't bother me at all i've never been mad at israel and i don't care if you love israel but if you're the u.s ambassador you're supposed to take your country's side against all other countries i would think that'd be a prerequisite for citizenship by the way it doesn't seem to be um and it's the whole thing is so humiliating and shameful that it gives us some insight into what's happening with this iran war so in a in a normal country you would just say to israel look you don't exist except for us we pay for everything we make everything possible for you you'd be eliminated without us so we're not going to war with iran we're going to negotiate a settlement where they're not going to build nuclear weapons that's that's fine they've already said they won't they have a fatwa against it maybe you don't believe that that's okay too we can discuss this but what we're not going to do is allow you to start the war unilaterally and then suck us into it that's actually what's going on we're afraid that israel will start a war unilaterally against our interests and no one can tell them no like what the hell is going on is there any other country that has this kind of control over the united states congress and administrations because i can't think of any no i can't think of any and you know he wouldn't get this position if he was tough on israel he wouldn't be in a position of flying in and being the u.s ambassador if he was tough on israel or he was going to put them in their place and we're not going to we're not going to carry out another regime change war on your behalf like look we tried it in libya didn't work out so well destabilized the middle east we tried it in iraq didn't work out so well destabilized the middle east um and i know you've been calling for this for decades for us to help you and to carry this out in iran now we're not going to do it he'd be out of a job i just don't see how when you have literally a white house chief of staff who is formerly worked for netanyahu inside the white house you don't choose an ambassador that the gatekeeping does not allow for somebody who's critical of israel to be the u.s ambassador to israel it's just not going to happen i mean i i think this is we've gotten to this place because nobody wants to hurt anybody's feelings and the bb people have conflated skepticism of it of israel's goals with anti-semitism which is insane i mean there are a lot of jews who don't like bb and they have every good reason to they're not anti-semites no person is an anti-semite for disliking the actions of the israeli government or not buying zionism whatever that is so people have been kind of like they don't want to have that fight so they've just sort of let this fester and then there's the other factor which is physical fear because israel is so violent and it's constantly bragging about murdering people and blowing up kids with pagers or leveling gaza i mean this is the most violent country in the world by far per capita so there is a feeling that like if you criticize them too much they could hurt you and i get that i'm not criticizing anyone who's afraid because there's a reason to be afraid however we've gotten to a place where we're potentially gonna like wreck our economy and americans will die because one guy benjamin netanyahu thinks it's a good idea or good for his political career or whatever like that is truly bonkers like why are we allowing this it's going to be devastating um speaking of vox media six years ago they wrote a piece after coming um after sulamani was was killed yeah but if we go to war with iran it will not be a walk in the park it will be a brutal bloody war and it would it will be their quote hell on earth hell on earth and that's just there every military expert i've talked to says what we have no strategy whatsoever and we have as you pointed out in your monologue earlier what end game like what is the end of this sort of a permanent boots without like permanent or some sort of large contingent of boots on the ground hundreds of thousands of american forces boots on the ground in that country what are we looking at here targeted strikes and that's we're just going to wash our hands of it and hope that that's the end of it and we walk away it makes zero sense so this is going to be an absolutely debilitating war it would be devastating to the american economy the u.s dollar of course is already purposefully being devalued um you know we're talking about like 30 big macs in the coming years i mean that's what we're heading towards we want to further oil prices in the streets of hormuz like what will this do to the united states economy but you hear from the maga crowd who we're now in energy independent so we we don't care about the streets of hormuz anymore that that's inconsequential because now the united states is fully energy independent and we've done we've done so brilliant brilliantly according to lindsey graham thanks to the president of united states that it doesn't matter if the straits of hormuz are shut down because guess what like we're we're all taken care of now we're able to start drilling trump's drilling program so don't worry about it we'll be fine yeah what's china's response going to be what's russia's response going to be what's the middle east what are all of those countries in the middle east what is their response going to be and by the way what about all the cannon fodder of american soldiers sitting right there right now not in fortresses many of these like places are like little outposts with very little protection at all so what's going to happen to them i guess we don't care about them well it's also i mean just to the energy independence thing i'm very strongly for energy for oil and gas for coal i mean i i believe that completely however energy prices oil and gas prices are set in the international market so what does that mean would you nationalize the energy producers and force them just to sell domestically every refinery has to sell its products in the u.s like what does that mean if the straits of hormuz are closed if there's disruption to energy facilities in the gulf the price of oil as set on the international market where everybody in the world bids on it every day all the time will spike i mean that's just a fact that's supply and demand so we're going to exempt ourselves from this how you would have to say again to american refineries you can't sell in the international market american energy producers cannot sell on the international market like are we going to say that like what are you even talking about who are these people like what are they talking about well they believe that the petrodollar is a thing of the past or you know the the sort of saudi the saudi petrodollar is a thing of the past and that will now in the united states it will it will be the it'll be backed by our own oil in the united states so the u.s dollar as a petrodollar will now be backed the full faith and credit of the united states government which is also 39 trillion dollars in debt right so how is that going to play out on the international stage and will these oil producers which make bank selling i mean just look at we blow up the nordstrom pipeline so what did we do we sell natural gas to germany at what three times the price that they were able to get it from russia and now you're going to tell the oil and natural gas producers that they can't sell it to germany they can't sell it to these other places because now there's no shipping lane there's no way to get this oil and natural gas to those regions of the world and you're only going to sell it to american consumers so we're going to nationalize it and sort of we'll subsidize it like the ethanol market you know like uh and that's how we'll do it so it'll be a snake eating its own tail and that's that's a recipe for success let me ask you one last question um it feels like the rhetoric i feel like such a liberal saying this because i hate on people though the rhetoric is overheated on all sides but i mean as someone who's been in the rhetoric business his whole life and i've added to ugly rhetoric and said intemperate things i've said incorrect things i'm i have been part of the problem for sure at various points but i've never seen people talk like they're talking right now particularly on the neocon side anyone who disagrees is a nazi anyone who's not eager to regime change iran wants a second holocaust i mean it's it's it's true it's it's the kind of language where if not slowed like soon someone's going to get hurt for real do you feel this for sure i mean just look at it on the you know whatever you want to call it mega twitter mega x but if you disagree or you you know call for the release of the epstein files that you're somehow you're somehow a liberal you're you know what you want to hurt the trump administration you don't want us to go to war with iran then you're you know shut up then you must be an anti-semite so you're probably pro-islam it's i've never seen it like this i mean i mean i'm you know even going back to i mean even like even going back to days or early social media like it was far far more congenial i think than it has than it is today um and uh i think that's why i think that's why you're going to see more censorship because you know i i as much as i love the dialogue i love the back and forth on real issues but i think you're going to see massive censorship because they don't want us they don't want us fighting over the things that they want to carry out like war with iran or covering up the epstein files or when you start to prick too closely you get followed and people tap your phones when you're digging into pedophile networks and these other things so i think we're going to see more censorship unfortunately and and i think and i think that's the intent i think at the end of the day they want us fighting like this to be as loud as possible so that they can censor us and that they can have total control of it see that's out of two out of control too many people calling people nazis we've got to control it you know youtube changes its terms of service all the time adds all sorts of new things you can't talk about on a regular basis so i think that's where we're heading and and toward violence i mean first of all there's there is some kind of nexus between violence outside our borders and violence inside our borders i believe that and in times of war you know and around wars chaos and violence increase here you saw this during vietnam charlie kirk was murdered a day after the israelis bombed doha one of the craziest things that's happened in the last 20 years etc i'm not saying there's a direct connection but these things tend to flower simultaneously i just have noted always noticed that it's a spirit of violence that descends for real and for another violent acts you just saw this in australia real or not are used as a pretext to strip people of their civil liberties of their human rights their god-given human rights and so i just fear that there will be some sort of domestic terror incident in which actual americans will actually die which is a true tragedy no matter who they are but that that tragedy will be used to strip the rest of us of our god-given human rights and i don't think i'm being paranoid i'm very concerned about that well you're speaking from historical precedence i mean we have a long history of false flags being used to strip us of our civil liberties and to carry out these horribly nefarious things um we just had i think this afternoon uh what's his name from the national endowment for democracy admitted in front of congress that they were there inside of iran helping to basically uh you know with their starlink materials uh helping to basically work on this agitation of protesters and louis stefani i think i like shut him shut him down told him shut up and like i don't think we should talk about this here so you literally have an admission that we are involved and actively in these types of stoking of chaos around the world whether it's people wearing plain clothes things showing up on january 6th whether it's 9 11 attacks on purpose to strip us of our civil liberties and get us into perpetual wars in the middle east whether it's you know william randolph hearst and remember the main and pushing us into war against spain um and rallying uh you know certain purposes there or whether it's fdr you know basically allowing uh pearl harbor to happen yeah which he did which um so there's you're speaking from historical precedence and you know i just i get so frustrated when people think that these things don't happen or that false flag attacks be used as a as a pretext for stripping us of our civil liberties won't happen or the massive digital id bio in you know infrastructure that is coming through through the likes of these tech oligarchs um it's coming it's all coming and they've been rolling it out and testing it in places like ukraine with the dia app and making sure that everything is targeted and tracked and people can snitch on their neighbors in ukraine you know you can like literally press a button on an app and basically have the sbu show up at your neighbor's house to investigate them like that's what they want and they test it out in these places like ukraine and they want to roll it out here because as i said earlier like what kevin ship told me they want control and that's the most frightening part of all we're just giving up control every time you did a great piece a few weeks ago on the phones and spying on your phones it's like every time we take in these little pieces of advanced technology it's making our lives easier it's actually sapping of us it's sapping us and it's taking away our liberties so true part of me just wants to move out in the you know mountains of wyoming and you know knock down any 6g 5g towers i see anywhere around me and you know just live off the land and churn butter yeah use them for target practice with your 308 yeah no i i have that fantasy can i say one last thing i i think this is all a fantasy on the part of the people putting together the control grid i don't i think that control over other people over the physical landscape over the universe assuming godlike powers is like the desire of every evil person and i think history is filled with attempts at this from the tower of babel till present and i don't think it's possible and i think that people routinely overstate their own power and they think they can do it but they can't and i think we laugh at them in retrospect like you're going to build a tower to the sky and eliminate all different languages and we like laugh at the tower of babel but we we laugh at mussolini or whatever we laugh at the bolsheviks but and we will laugh at these people too that's my guess hope i'm right i hope so i hope you're right too i really do then i see these nefarious things and i see all these people drugged out on marijuana you know on pot marijuana and they're just like drones you know and then once you roll in some sort of like universal basic income yeah you get to be a drone as part of the system and uh i don't know i i'm i'm usually a glass half full kind of person and i i'm trying to be but i think the moves in this this ai direction um is so nefarious and so so terrifying that i i don't know if we can put this genie back in the bottle i sure hope so but pretty soon in the next like five years people are gonna have robots in their houses like folding their laundry like that is coming um i mean anyway tesla just converted one of their factories in fremont to be the new you know optimist robot plant so robots are coming ai and a much larger capacity is coming and and by the way the united states is losing desperately to china in that race and so you can only imagine these neocons and technocrats that really want to run things are going to be pushing for trillions of dollars in the united states you know budget to be able to try to compete with china and it's i hope you're right i hope you're right i'm not letting a robot in my house clayton morris it is so great to see you as always and thank you for your relentless search for the truth um your fearlessness and your decency great to see you well great to see you thank you so much sucker and uh incredible incredible work as always my friend not everyone agrees but i appreciate it thank you and thank you thank you for watching we'll see you next wednesday thanks for watching the wednesday edition of the show we stream live every week wednesday 6 p.m eastern on tuckercarlson.com members can watch the show live join the members only chat and take part in the conversation in real time we're grateful to be doing it and grateful that you watch it thank you